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PostPosted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 7:14 pm 
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Hi just back from holidays. Had a blast, was very bold & did'nt bother testing for the week either I went on holidays from the diabetes. Back to reality with a bang, am major depressed, & all the unpacking & washing to do now - urghhhhh.

DM - I really hope to jesus they don't introduce a ban - They'll have some fight on their hands if they try that here :(

E - What a fuckin bummer on the ha1bc :bomb: . Something is causing that alright, between those infections & stuff.... I hope they get to the bottom of it for you quickly

Almum - Maybe another month or two on the clomid will get better results for you. The first month is really only just getting into ur system and hopefully next month will see more eggs. Fingers crossed for ya hun xxx

Redb - enjoy ur holidays. Where have u gone? Your poor neice - thats just awful for her. Hope she gets all the support she needs from her family right now :(

Hi Cas - KK sound like a great hospital only finger pricking for the bloods. Congrats on the pregnancy. Hope the rest of the pregnancy is happy and healthy.j

Right - better go back to the unpacking. Have 2 bottles of the red to try cheer meself up later :(

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Welcome back Dutchie, sounds like you had a great time. I couldn't live without my glucometer for a week on hols, I'd be worrying all the time about being high/low. I went away once and ran out of strips towards the end. It was only for around 3 days but I was up the walls worrying about my bs, especially during the night.
Re. the Driving with Diabetes changes, there is info on the DVLA website and it classes a hypo as one needing assistance from another person, so I think we are ok (unless you need help from someone when you go low and tell your doc about it).
Redb, thats terrible about your niece, can't believe how hard they are being on her. It's already done so now they need to focus on making the best of the situation.
My insulin requirements have gone right up now :lookround: I'm constantly chasing the highs (no lows though!), I reckon it must be the Clomid- anyone any idea if it would put bs up? I'm taking more insulin now than I was when I started on the pump when I went low lots. I've no infection or anything (yay!!) so its not that, think I managed to escape the dreaded UTI this month (no idea why).

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Hi Almum if we are ruling out a definited BFP then I reckon its the clomid causing the sugars to rise. The clomid is obviously making ur ovaries work a bit harder to produce more eggs so relatively speaking the body is slightly "stressed" hence rise in sugars.... I could be totally way off the mark but thats my take on it so far? Brilliant too re the absence of UTI hooraahhh!! :bigups:

Stressed meself today I've decided to take up childminding & have a mother & 9mth old coming over to visit the house & I'm hoarse trying to keep the kids from messing up the house. Ideally I'd prefer after school care but as my DH said last night beggars can't be choosers :lookround: The mum is a nurse returning back to work & her shifts are 2 days 1 wk and 3 days the following week. Seems like an ideal situation but who knows she might hate me or the house or the kids :eh:

Is'nt the weather flippin typical for back to school. Mine are'nt back until Thurs will really miss them not being around poor E will be going around the house looking for his brother & sister :lol:

Hope everyone else is well :thumbsup:

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Yeah reckon it must be something like that with the Clomid, it's too early yet for pregnancy hormones and it was creeping up even before ov, it's just crazy how much I'm increasing my insulin. Corrected at 2am last night and still it was 12 this morn. I contacted the hopsital in case its something to do with the pump and she said she will ask doc about the clomid and its effect on bs. I'm going up to the clinic tomorrow to review everything also.
Diabetes, its forever changing isn't it? The irony is that if I'd been taking this much insulin a few months ago I probably wouldn't have needed a pump as the adjustments wouldn't be as big a percentage :sigh:

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Hi girls,
How is everyone?
Well the mystery was solved re the high bs.......I went to see the nurse and she copped it. I was mixing up my decimal points when increasing my doses, so while my bs were high and did need adjusting, it was nearly as much as I thought. The pump goes up in 0.01 increments so when I thought I was increasing to 1 unit over 3 hours it was only 0.1 units!! No wonder it was having no effect. Overall it needed to be increased by around 0.5, which I thought I'd actually increased it by 5 units!! Big difference. :stupid: Maths was never my strong point. BS are fine now that its been sorted (well, more or less, iykwim). I'd often see an increase in insulin requirements in luteal phase anyway so nothing new.
Did a test yesterday and its neg, so thats me out for this month again. I don't normally bother to test anymore but just thought I would since I'd taken the Clomid.

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You see, thats the kind of thing that I would do :biggrin:
(and you are much more technical then me....)
Glad you got to the bottom of the high bs's. Sorry about the negative test; hope you are feeling okay about it.. All those high bs levels must not have helped.
How is everyone else?

I was back at the clinic yesterday and then feel that I may be loosing my hypo awareness so I am going low, not realising it, glucagon is kicking out (meanwhile I have taken something on the hop) and then when I test 4 hours later I am 23 :stern: They also think my cycle may be affecting things - is that true for any of you? I think I may be peri-menopausal - ffs - as my cycle has been a lot shorter recently... the joys.. So anyway I have to do loads more tests, 3am, carb-free meals, and try to catch any patterns. I have also gone up to 2.5:1 ratio at breakfast, so hoping that might help. Back in next week.
Feel a bit deflated tbh, why does my shitty body have to be so difficult??????

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Tell me about it :rolleyes: , even if it was a bit more predictable that would be good....and wlecome to the 3am club. I test /correct at 3am a lot. That's the only way I get good HbA1c. I had a night off last night cos it was steady the night before but payed for it with a bs of 10 this morn.
I am getting to like using my pump though, now that I'm used to wearing it. :)

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Bit of info for ye. If you haven't been tested might be worth getting a blood done.
How is everyone anyway?

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Hey all - finally starting to get back into the land of the living.
Big changes here - am sort of ttc - missed the boat this month we think cos DH was still in Dublin and Manchester sorting out the mess that is my niece. We got home from holiday and picked the new dog up as soon as we got up the next day. She's gorgeous, very good but I'm finding it hard to handle the whinying all night ALL NIGHT LONG and pooing everyhwere. DH has had to go off on business and I cant leave the dog unattended or she shits and pees everywhere. We've no clean clothes and I'm SO tired.

My sugars are gone ballistic too - couldnt get them under 10 for about 6 days but I was 6.2 this morning so I hope thats something to start with for today.

ALMum - sorry I only got your PM today - i hope its not too late!

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 Post subject: Re: Diabetic mums chat
PostPosted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 1:14 pm 
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Hi ladies

Back from doing my Berger course last week. Its the same as the DAFNE. Well my bleedin head was melted with all the calculations :nervous: . I never bothered with calculating my foods so this was a bit of a shock trying to get my head around it. But since the weekend after I sat down and went through it myself its starting to come together for me. I really need to get my nighttime & 3am sugars sorted and into a steady pattern first. They have me on a huge ratio

2.7:10g for morning
3:10g for lunch and dinner

Think I'm getting it but by jesus I am sooooo crap at maths :bomb:

Redb if u are reading this could u send me on ur spreadsheet thingy. It might help me record all these stuff. I know practice makes perfect and will be counting carbs in my sleep lol!!

My BS went total haywire on Sat night but I think it was just a combination of them reducing my Levemir and evening dose hugely. Plus I was so pissed off I drank a bottle of wine, and guzzled my way through a bag of popcorn

Not sure though if I can keep up with this mega testing pre & post meals shite. But will keep going anway :sigh:

Just wondering though for those of u who are pro's at this CHO counting. Say you have a bag of crisps in between ur meals do u count ur CHO and give urself say if the crisps are 30g. I wud take it that u take 3units of insulin to cover it???? Am I right or have a fucked up again?! :biggrin:

E sorry your having a hard time. Life can be so shit sometimes. Don't worry your not alone in the 3am testing, think we're all doing it too :biggrin:

Redb sorry but had to laugh at ur post on the dog. Thats just exactly why we're not getting one. My kids keep hounding me they want a doggy, but I've said NO WAY not until Eoin is at least 3, and he's sleeps though the night, and he can dress himself and go to the loo and wipe his own bum!! Dogs are just like babies. They need ALOT of care at the start anyway. Good luck with it!

Almum - thats just the type of thing I'd do. I'm not at all technie not mathimatical minded as you can already see for youself lol!!!! Fingers crossed hun this might be ur month!

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 Post subject: Re: Diabetic mums chat
PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 1:32 am 
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Dutchie, PM me your email addy and I'll send you it!!

The dog is working out great. She's not whined at night since my last post and is doing all her business in the garden or on newspapers already. She's an absolute darling and adores kids, licks them to bits! I adore her so much!!!

Eta: the crisps are added up right. 30g of carb is 3CHO but don't forget your ratios. Around lunchtime it could be as much as 9 units. I would be very surprised if your ratios stay that high once your fastings are stable. Get your bedtime -> 3am -> mornings steady first and the rest of your basals will fall into place!

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 9:02 am 
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Hi all!
How are you getting on E? Any luck with the patterns and readings?
Dutchie, I'd agree with Redb about not forgetting the ratios at that time, so not just the carbs in the meal but your ratio at that time needs to be considered. Divide your day into timeblocks, so if you are on 3:10g at lunch, make it that ratio from 1 to 5 (or whenever seems to wok for you best) and use that ratio for all meals, snacks in that time.
I'm doing ok, think I've got the night bs under control. Was really impressed the night before last when I went to bed on 5.9, had a full nights sleep and woke up on 5.3.....perfect! Thought I had it sorted! But then yesterday eve, my bs went from 8 at dinner to 19.8 before bed for no apparent reason, so then the correction brought me down to 2.2 during the night.......but I think its going in the right direction. This bs was v out of pattern. Any ideas for it? When I bolused it brought it down so I think not the pump, unless I got a giant air bubble (but pump was uperside down so don't know how the air could get into tubing against gravity). I may have underestimated the carbs at dinner a bit.....but not by that much! maybe it was a hypo rebound I didn't know about? Maybe it was just one of those things, in case I was thinking I'd have 2 nights sleep uninterupted!
On antiobiotics again, got this horrbile acne/face rash. Doc said probably due to clomid changing hormone levels and weeks of higher bs. It's horrible, really red and I can't even wear makeup to cover it. :(though they put everything down to diabetes don't they?)
DM, how are you doing?

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HELP!!!

Bloods doing great today so far. Decided to have pizza & chips for dinner. Nearly died when I weighted out the food. Now all I was having was 2 slices of pizza & about 10 chips.... The pizza weighted 90g!!!! & the chips 100g!!!

So I added both up. 190g. Calculated it against my ratio and got 57units of insulin????!!!!!??????
If I took that I'd be comatosed!!!!!???

Am I calculating this wrong.

What I'm doing is

3:10g
190g

There multiply 3 x 19 = 57?????

Same as my breakfast and lunch

Today for lunch I had 45g CHO
Ratio is 3:10g

So I multiplied 3 x 4 = 12units Insulin. Bloods perfect this afternoon.

Am I calculating this right at all?

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What kind-of pizza was it Dutchie?

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 9:12 pm 
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Chips: 100g = 3CHO
90g of pizza I would say would be around2-3 CHO, assuming its deep pan where 230g is 8CHO.

So, you are doing 3:1 right? 6CHO=18units.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 9:22 pm 
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Hi Dutchie, definitely correct on the lunch time if you had 45g carbs and on 3:10g ratio.

This evening tho were you weighing the pizza and calculating how many carbs in it? or were you just weighing pizza and then doing ratio on that?
90 g of pizza is about 30 carbs portion
100g of chips is 36 carbs (deep fried) or 30 (oven baked)

So 30+36 is 66 carbs , so that is 6 .6 portion
You said you were on 3:1 so you would probably need 6.6 x 3 giving you 19.8 so 20 units fast acting insulin.

Did you have the chips and pizza?

I know the first few weeks i kept to really easy stuff that was easy to count and took little effort, until i found my correct ratios.

As an aside I find if i have chips at all , because of all the fat it takes longer to digest and if i take the insulin does all togewther I get hypo after burger and chips, so what nurses recommended to me was to split the dose, to have 50 % before I eat and 50 % half hour to forty mins later.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 9:30 pm 
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Posted together E :biggrin:
Your explantaion so much better than mine
E how are you feeling , are the bloods settling?
Almum, hope the rash/acne clears soon, no idea re the 2.2, would it be the anti biotic? could there be some other underlying cause, mine always go up with virus or the like
Redb what sort of dog?
Had diabetic appt on 14 sept, dont think i got in here since
All good HBA1C 6.7 exactly the same as last time, all happy, they wanted to check my eyes again (only had them done in may and they were perfect but nurse couldnt see the record (I pointed it out to her, she said maybe she needs check :biggrin: ) My weight is down 12 lbs since march...woohoo.
Had iron infusion after clinic as my iron count is so low for so long and all other methods had been tried.
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I have to work it out really simply otherwise my brain shuts down :stupid: :biggrin:
That a1c is brilliant. Well done, and double well done on the 12lbs. Its a great feeling to have lost a bit of weight isn't it.
Hopefully the infusion will help to boost your iron levels, you must feel tired if your levels are low?

ALMum, thats so shite re your skin. I think you can get some medicated foundation, but prob much better off not wearing anything to let your skin breath. I think you had trouble with your skin when I knew you first pregnant with ds2. Your hormone levels are obviously very sensitive hey.. How is dh getting on?

Red, how you doing chick?

I am trouping into the hospital every week and I think we are starting to make progress, but its really demoralising as I am still bouncing and I have definitely lost some hypo awareness. Also, I am having more hypos and I really don't want to start putting weight back on. Last time I tightened up control before this phase of brittle control, I put on 3kg :stern:

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 11:36 am 
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Hey all.
DM thats a brilliant A1c, I cried at a 7.0, you must have been so bloody chuffed with yourself!! and DOWN 12lbs - well done you!!

Dutchie - you are doing the same that I did and got some stupendous hypos :biggrin:
You are counting up the food, instead of counting the CARBS in the food.

So for example -
90g of cooked rice CONTAINS 30g of carbs so its only 3CHO.
100g of chips CONTAINS about 35g of carbs so again, its only 3.5CHO

Apart from that, your maths are fine. Just remember its the weight of the carbs in the food, not the weight of the food that you measure! There are a few really good iPhone and Android applications that I use to help work stuff out.

Pizzas are a bitch to work out cos it depends on the size of the crust. I either measure them and go by the DAFNE book or look at the back of the box. I tend to avoid them cos they take up so much insulin and i'm NEVER on target after my meal and its just not worth it.

I'm doing good. I didnt get UTD in Spain despite lots of action, DH cant "complete" if he's even had 2 drinks and he had a drink most nights over there. Thank goodness he rarely drinks at home!! My A1c must have taken a battering while I was on holidays, my levels went totally nuts after I came home but I think I can only really blame my hormones. I'm going to have to get a new Basal profile for my pump for after I ovulate. I couldnt get under a 10 for about 4 days and then came crashing down when I got my period. Grrrrrr. On another note, I really feel like I'm losing weight or toning up at least. I'm a lot more active since my knee operation and just feel like i'm getting more done etc. All good.

The dog is doing magic - she's an absolute angel. She never whines at night now, only pees or poos on the newspaper and is playing brilliantly with Isabella. She is also eating me out of house and home - she was on 3x45g meals 12 days ago, she is now on 70g, 40g and 70g. Its cheaper to feed Isabella :biggrin: She's a collie-mix, we think border and long-haired.

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Shes very cute Redb :biggrin:
Yeah i was happy with 6.7 but remember i had 5.4 so in my head Im not as good. Im fully aware thats wrong and it was cos i was hving too much lows that i had 5.4. My only worry is that it will keep going up, as long as it stays below 7 ill be fine :biggrin: :biggrin:


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 9:56 am 
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Hi girls,
How are we doing? DM, congratulations on the HbA1c, thats great, I know you're thinking not as good as 5.4 but I don't think thats really achievable without lots of hypos for us and you have to live too.
Dutchie, hope you settling back in now after your hols?
E, keep at it. Hopefully the trips in every week will be worth it. Bet you didn't think you'd be spending your free time in the mornings doing that though.......but at least you have the time to really work at it now.
Been busy myself here, just back from a girlie weekend in Kerry, was lovely to get away. Got back to a massacre on Sun night. :nervous: The cat was in a fight and got her paws cut. When I opened the door she flew in and ran upstairs under our bed. There was blood all over the kitchen hall stairs and bedroom floors. The carpet in our room is white/cream and the blood really showed up on it. It was everywhere!! So at 11pm I was scrubbing the floor, great way to get settled at home after a couple of days away!! It's still not completely off, think we are gonna have to hire a carpet shampoer to do the rest. Now it looks like someone dragged a bleeding body through! All that time we've had the carpet, I thought the kids would be the ones to get sick on it or something, never thought about the cat.
My bs are mostly good but having some crazy highs- like 24 yesterday and 19 different time day before. WTF, never had highs like that on pens.
Re. the pizza issue- I tend to stay away from them as the amount of insulin needed is huge and I'm too scared to take a huge amount. It's harder to get it right when you take a much large dose than normal. If I was to have one, I'd use the carb count on the box.

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Hi there

What a bummer to have to return to that after a nice relaxing girlie weekend away!! Where was DH!!!?????

BS not great now at the moment. Was high all day y'day then after dinner y'day evening got a friggin hypo so am high again as a result :bomb: Rang the hospital y'day to try get an appt to see dietician and had to ring back again this morning because no one was answering their phones & had left 2 messages. Anyway got through this morning but was told that I'd have to wait 2/3 mths for an appt like WTF!!! So dietician is supposed to ring me back today. Getting fed up with it. Having the same b/fast and lunch every day and dinners are being kept as simple as possible. Will keep away from pizza's for now. Goddamn it anyway. I love pizza :blush:

On a lighter note I did the cork womens mini marathon last weekend and really enjoyed it what a day it was brilliant excitement and everyone was on a high. It was only 4 miles so even though I had no training done for it, it was very do-able :biggrin: Treated my self to a big mac after it though :biggrin:

DM - how are u getting on with the dafne stuff?? Are you managing it? What a brilliant A1c. Well done to you! Mine is currently at 8.4% :(

Hope everyone else is well these days :bigups:

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Hi all

redb that puppy is so cute. Almum can only imagine the poor cat though hope he is better. Have been very busy here trying to keep dds bs in check doing well so far am with ye on the pizza am coeliac so dont bother with that type of stuff but dd loves it every now and again good golly the amount of carbs in it and as for pasta nearly had a heart attack trying to count that up for her really couldnt get over the amount of carbs in that but she is doing well thank god. My bs are ok at the moment but due to pregnancy am taking huge amounts of insulin it has really gone up in the last few weeks am 26 wks at the moment. But on a good note dds coeliac test came back negative so thrilled with that. Dm thats a great ha1bc mine is 5.4 at the moment but having a good few hypos but manageable at the moment hope everybody else is doing well.


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Dh was on a daytrip to Birmingham with his mates, didn't get back til midnight after it was all cleaned up. Our cat is ok now, limping and afraid to go out, we are just keeping an eye out for an infection to start up.
It does take a while to adjust and get used to the DAFNE way of doing things. Surprised you have to wait that long just to see a dietician though! As regards answering the phones and returning calls...sounds like my clinic. Keep at them its the only way.
Casiao- sounds like you are getting on well, thats a great HbA1c for pregnancy. My record was 5.9 with a lot of hard work!
You can buy GF pizzas if you want btw (but they have a thick base, so lots of carbs).

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