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Thanks for the welcome E and DM. It's good to talk to others in the same situation. I decided to try for another so soon in case it takes a while and they say the younger the better.
It's amazing how docs fly away comments can effect you though isn't it? I'm glad that my routine doc is v good and is more or less just a sounding board, but lets me take control (Dr Mckenna in Dun Laoghaire). Dr Firth/Foley are so patronising! I know they have to be strict when pg, but you would think they would listen a bit more!
DM- well done on having 4 healthy babs, especially since you've been diabetic so long to. Did you have CS or natural birth?
I had thyroid problems when I was 25 also, so had to get it removed by surgery so that's another thing I 've to keep an eye on, but no-one in my family has IDDM so don't know where I got these from!!
DS shocked me the other day- he grabbed one of my insulin pens off me, pulled his top up and pressed the pen against his belly (lid was on of course). He's only 20 mths but obviously he's copying what he sees me doing. THe image just scares me though- that he would have to go through any of what I went through as a child with IDDM.

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Hi all
so E are you going to tell us all what it is...... I'm such a nosy aul wan so tell me to piss off you you want !!!!!

DM - your Hab1c results are brilliant, how do you do so well girl The best I ever got was 7....

Must ring my GP for the Hba1c results - am dreading what she has to say..... dum de dum.....

LMum, my DS who is 2.5yr watchs me with big wide eyes when I'm giving myself my jab... sometimes he pulls his top up trying to copy me, but so far he has'nt gone near my pen - janey mack - that thought gives me the shivers too

Can I ask do any of ye give in to the temptation to eat chocolate / crisps??? I've have to admit I have a weakness I'm very good for brekkie - just have a bowl of porride. Lunch is either a sandwich/ soup, or dinner, and tea - is a nightmare, usually a bowl of cornflakes and a slice of toast, followed by a bar of choc (the cadburys sandwich bar) when the kids are finally in bed - I really need to cop myself on My worst part of the day is 3pm when I have to have a cup of coffee - with a biccki thrown in... Am I the boldest person here

Someone mentioned insulin in an earlier post. I inject 4 times a day, and take Novorapid for brekkie, lunch and tea, and Levemar just before bedtime...

Right better go ring the Dr

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Crisps are my big down fall. When I was diagnosed at 3 drs told mum and dad that I couldnt have choc, sweets, cakes bicuits etc but I could have crisps , and so began a lifelong addiction to crisps often two a day and on bad days even more.
Because mum was pretty strict I never really got a taste or love of chocolate, excluding my teen years when I rebeled against annything my mother said.
My poor mum really had it hard with 5 out of 7 children getting diabetes. I get on much better with my Dad and only in recent years I figured its probably cos mum was the one to always do my injections until I could do it myself.
My 12 y/o can tell when my bs is low by just looking at me and will make me eat or take lucozade. Actually shes a brilliant little girl and could probably look after me better than any dr at this stage. Its funny listening to the little ones copying adults. All mine have pretended to inject themselves. DS2 who is 3 does ask me regularly is it sore.
Like you Dutchie I have the porridge for brekkie. I find it fills me up whereas any other cereal and I could spend the morning picking. For lunch I usually have soup or sandwich or bananas and ryvite. I try to eat more vegetables at dinner with usually chiken or pasta. I love a chinese at the weekend. Saying all that there are plenty days when i eat everyting I shouldnt .I have to say my sugars are a lot better with the swimming . DS2 and I have started swimming in mornings . I try to do at least 10 lengths, and his water confidence is brilliant now.I always find my bs higher the week leading up to period as I seem to eat non stop that week Is it any wonder I need to lose weight.
Hope your all ok and the ttc is going well

Still not saying anything Dutchie ... you'll just have to be patient

I stick to a fairly rigid GI diet, but do have a piece of choccy if dh is eating one (and he is a nortorious chocolate & chrisp man). For me, savoury things are my biggest issue: cheese..

have to run
E

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I have to say I like crisps and chocolate especially. I tend to go for choc if I'm low as a preference and if not ppick at a square here and there. I grand in the day, it's in the eves that I get out the choc. I do notice though that once you give enough insulin for the amount of CHO in the choc its no different to eating something savoury in terms of effect on your BS, so I get round it this way!!! My weight is ok, so I'm not worried about that at the moment.
Hmm I was looking at your posts, could probably improve my morning food- I have cerealm but it's normally Sp K or something like that - porridge would be better. But am putting it off though as if I get pg I know I'll be only able to eat porridge or shredded wheat (ugh!) and I'll be sick of the stuff after 9 months!About exercise- if you are looking to loose weight then I would reduce short acting insulin and go shortly after a meal- only use lucozade if you go low, otherwise you are eating extra to compensate and you'll never loose weight!!

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Girls, got a BFP this month! so will be meeting Dr's Firth & Foley again Ah, well I'm ready for them
PS How do you find this topic- is there a quick search or something as it always takes ages to find.
Roll on the shredded wheat breakfasts!

WOW, congrats LMum!!!!

Time to stock up on the porridge oats, and shreaded wheat
I think the key to Dr Firth, is to maintain sense of humour at all costs, because then he can't wind you up, and upset you (worked for me anyway...)

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Congrats Lmum.

thanks guys, fingers crossed will go ok. Have 1st hosp appt tomorrow.

Good luck tomorrow Lmum and hope all goes well

Hey LMum, hope they didn't admit you... with such good Hba1C, I'm sure thats not possible

Anyway, tell us how you got on when you get a chance
Hope everyone's doing something nice over halloween - bet you have your hands full DM and do you dress up your two Dutchie? Not sure what to do about dd but will probably let her wear her superman outfit (complete with cape - she loves him ) to the party in her playschool on tuesday

No snacking on those sweeties and crisps now

E

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Hi girls hope your all well,hope everything went ok at appointment Lmum.
E Im lucky this year as the kids are all going to halloween parties DD1 is going to friends for party and dvd, DS1 is heading to his friends for some hurling games and party and DD2 is going to fancy dress party at her friends all on monday. We are all heading to fancy dress party at my sisters tomorrow for birthday party for my godson whos 4. Ill be all partyed out
Hope ye all have a lovely weekend

Hi girls,
Well after the excitement of a BFP last Thurs, I was soon brought back to reality on fri morn at the clinic. Met Dr Firth again ( didn't indicate that he remembered me, no welcome, congrats etc -fair ebough) but wasn't prepared for the next bit. I'd been talking to Mary Coffey 1st and she told me he is now leaving those with good control on Lantus til after 12 weeks as the risk of contol going out is greater than the risk from the insulin itself. great I thought cos I have a long history of hypos during night on Insultard. Doc had other ideas- he lied out staright and said he didn't have anyone on Lantus as it is not registered in pg and anyway my sugars weren't good enough (5/6 in morns and 4-7 other meal, HBA1c 6.5) he said he wanted 3- 4 before meals and up to 6 after. Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't 3 too low ot be all the time. He said he would admit me to hospital if I didn't change this dose. So now I have a new dose & back on Insultard ( I couldn't say Mary had told me otherwise). My sugars over the w/e have been high in morns now in the region of 12-16 dropping by eves to 2.8. It's all over the place now. If we could work

together on it, it would help but he doesn't want to listen to anything I have to say.
Is there any alternative or is he the only pg consultant in South Dublin does anyone know? What was your control like in the early stages of pg? Was it like this- I always worry that mine is worse than anyone elses.
The other thing I don't like is when you get a high, you are supposed to just leave it- not try and bring it down by taking extra insulin or not eating. So the effect is that it can stay up for ages. I was eaten last time for taking extra insulin to bring sugars of 15 back down!! Normally I use a "sliding scale" approach to my does- but he just said to scarp that!

I just don't know why he didn't leave you on the Lantus

That dosen't make any sense.. that man honestly, he is a fool. Don't forget that your BS will be all over the place anyway from the early pregnancy hormones, but it will settle eventually

Glad you wern't admitted..

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Sorry: if its high, don't aggust as this will give them a false reading. Go for a walk, drink a pint of water, and test again. If its still high after 2 hours, then take a bolus of 2units.

You could go to the Mater, where Dr Kinsley is, but in all reality its the system they use thats the issue, not them as such.

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Im ready to scream, posted really long message and Ive just lost it Will rewrite

Hi Lmum, thats a brilliant HBA1C. Your blood sugars are great too. Is Dr Firth a diabetic consultant ? He really doesnt sound very knopwledgeable????Even my 12y/o daughter would tell him blood sugar levels of 3 are low. My sister would be having hypo at 3.0.As far as I remember the blood sugars are all over the place with hormones the first few weeks.
Is Mary Coffey a diabetic specialist nurse? I have to say the diabetic specialist nurse was a great support to me during my pregnancy's.
I had a gobshite of a consultant on first pregnancy. He was a thick ignorant pig who thought he knew everything (DIDNT)and would not talk too me , just at me (Its nowover 12 years later and I still get stressed thinking about him)
I was really really lucky on the following prgnancies. I refused to see the gobshite dr and on preganancy 2 saw a very good dr who admitted he didnt know a lot about diabetes but he would work with me and diabetic team to look after me and baby.
On pregnancy 3 and 4 I think I was blessed the last dr had retired and was replaced by a diabetic consultant. Apart from the fact your in dublin and were in Mayo it would nearly be worth traipsing back and over country to see him. He was brilliant . Being a diabetic himself he knew that no one knew my diabetes better than me. He knew that no two diabetics have the same reactions or physical conditions.

Sorry for waffling on. Is there only one doctor you can see while pregnant as a diabetic in Dublin? Do you have to be checking your blood sugars 7 times a day now? I know I worried in first pregancy about baby being affected by high readings in the beginning but thank god she was fine.Shes now a beautiful smart 12y/o who thinks dr firth must be cracked her words. She said 3 is low and you need sugar if its that low. I think a high reading now and again is ok as long as its not high all the time.
Hope your feeling well and not suffering with morning sickness
Take care and talk soon

Hi everyone

Firstly - Congratulations LMum on your pregnancy!!!! Brilliant news.

2ndly - your Hab1c is brilliant - what on earth do they want????????? Bugs the shit out of me that they always have to be going on about it

I attend Dr Firth and he is VERY strict. I had an appt with him last week and I'm not joking you, but I was SH***ING myself before going into see him as my a1c was 8.9, and was so sure he was giong to eat me alive... but instead he was very nice to me cause I did'nt give him a chance to let rip, instead I went on that I'd 2 kids and was finding it v.v.v. hard to keep my sugars down in the morings etc. I'm on Levamir at night, but when I was pregnant I had to go on Insultard, and the hypos at night time were unreal

I got to see Dr Kingsley in the Coombe on most visits, and he is LOVELY. What hospital are you going to??

Also, your BS will be a bit all over the place at the moment due to the preg hormones, but they will regulate. It is a bloody pain to test 8 times a day, my fingers were falling off me by the time my two were born At least he did'nt admit you But your not alone, my control was exactly like yours in early pregnancy, and I used to worry myself sick about the baby, but all turned out well on both babies, thank god. I know its easier said than done, but try not to let this man get to you, he is just trying to scare you into taking RIGID control of your BS, not that you don't anyway....

Aside from all that how are you feeling anyway, hope you don't have any MS.

Take care and don't forget we're all here to help you along

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Thanks ever so much girls for your advice! It's good to know I'm not the only one. Yeah maybe he wanted to create a tough impression on the initial visit- he didn't need to as I remember him well from before
My Bs yesterday was 10, today 15 before B'fast- how on earth is that better than I was getting in any way. Suspect I may be going low during the night and jumping up after- looks like I'll have to start setting the alarm for 3am for an extra blood test! Yeah, the basic amount is 7 tests a day, but you need to add on the extra you've to do if you suspect you are low!
I don't know Dr Firth also did routine diabetic clinic's- I thought he was just a pg specialist. God, I wouldn't go to him if I had a choice. The clinic in HS is shared with him & Dr Kinsley- yes, he is much nicer- maybe next time I'll get him. There is also a registrar- he is really nice and works with you when making adjustments.
Other than that I feel fine- tired (nothing new with DS around!) and occassional sickness. Am worried its only early stages and it may not keep. I think I'll have to tell my boss soon as I can't eat at my desk (don't ask ! ) so will need to be moved and they need to be aware anyway. How soon did you tell on your last?

On my last pregnancy I had to tell my boss when I was only6 weeks as I got a hypo and never felt it coming on. Didnt even realise I was pregnant , had done 2 prefnancy tests as my period was late and it never is, and they were both negative .So went to dr and he checked again and I was definately pregnant. Because I was working with adults with disabilities I had to tell my boss and my co worker so I wouldnt be getting funny with people in my care. I was very sick on 4th pregnancy and was hospitalised at 10 weeks as I couldnt keep food down. On other pregnancys though i just told my boss early but didnt tell co workers till after 12 weeks
Is there any way you can get boss let you eat at desk?
Will come back later, bringing kids to fire station this morning

Morning all

I told boss at around 6 weeks on each pregnancy as I had to attend coombe every 2 / 3 weeks and did'nt want to be lying to my boss and making it harder for myself having to come up with excuses.... Found telling him on 2nd preg much harder as I had only just started the job, and was mortified

LMum - have you tried eating a slice of brown bread before going to bed, as you have to snack when you are on Insulatard. What do you eat during the day?

talk later, boss is snooping around here

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Hi girls - hadn't seen the posts since - sorry

They discharged me from the clinic in the summer and said if I had any queries to get back to them.

I was told to buy a glucometer which I did but then ran out of test strips and lancets so it's no use now really. BS was 4 - 6 I think - that's ok isn't it?

STill crave sweet things big time and am being VERY bold re diet etc

Am classed as Glucose intolerant as opposed to diabetic but I think the GP was trying to tell me nicely that it more than likely will develop into full blown diabetes.

have applied for Mortgage insurance as we're re-mortgaging at the moment. Had to put medical history down so put down high BP, pre-eclampsia and Gest Diabetes - I'm expecting to be caled for a medical now which will hold everything up

Later ladies
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Boys in The Bluebells, Lough Key, May 2010
Four great little men within 5 years and 5 weeks.