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Hi girls, hope your well. , Dutchie glad ye had a nice holiday, I love kerry and cork . What part of cork was it?
I went into my GP today cos Im just not dealing with things. He was great and took the time to listen to me. He prescribed anti depressants and I have to go back again next week. My mum took the kids for the night tonight, I think I frightened her when I rang her crying from town today. I had tried the health shop first but they told me to go to GP as I probably needed something more than they could give me.
Just wanted to say thanks again for listening to me and letting me talk, it really does help.

Just very quickly, we are all here for you hun

I am soooo glad you took the innitiative and went to your gp, listen to what he says and take time to let yourself come to terms with your feelings. Everything is very raw at the moment, but hopefully in time you will start to see that you can get strong and get back to yourself.

Sorry if thats abit garbled.

Thinking of you
Ex

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How are things?

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Hi E, still feeling rotten but it will probably take a few days for tablets to start working. dreams are still waking me and I just have no interset in the kids and usually during summer we would plan a few day trips and head to beach or something, I just feel like a useless mother as well as everything else. Seemingly there is possibly a link between diabetes and depression. I think this has all being building since February and I let it linger without doing anythiung for too long.. I ve been trying to get out for walk and fresh air to maybe perk me up.

Enough about me , how are you and your little one? Did you decide on ttc again, I know you were thinking about it. Talk later and thanks for talking.

It does take a while for any anti-depression medication to kick in, but you sound like you are doing the best at the moment. Getting out for a walk, and feeling the sun ( !!!) on your face will do you and the kids good too.
I know how hard it can be sometimes to feel enthusiasm for life, and I think our children pick up on that. Maybe get your dh to plan a trip with the kids, and then if you feel up to it tag along..

I had to have a wisdon tooth out on monday, after alot of pain, and I thought it would be so much better by now, but you know the way it takes us longer to recover... still feeling like crap, and have just finished 2nd set of antibiotics, so I feel terribly neausious - I don't know if you feel sick ever? But its a constant thing for me (because of the meds I'm on), and its getting me down abit at the moment.. I know it will wear off though
Anyway, dd has been acting up as a result. There has been alot of whining and demanding over the last few days, and my dh said last night that he thinks its related to me being unwell. Hes prob right. (I hate that )

Anyway, , You're doing great just keep talking cus we are here.

Exx

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ps: maybe try writing down your dreams as sometimes this can help to clear them from your unconscious. Keep a pen & paper by the bed and when you wake, jot them down.

hth,E

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E so sorry to hear your not feeling well. Isnt it gas how kids always know how to pick up on things and know when to play up when we really arent fit for it. I hate having to take antibotics cos they seem to run you down for some strange reason. My sister who also has diabetes had her wisdom teeth out a few years ago and she was a good two weeks and more before she was feeling any better. And she was living at home so she had mum looking after her and no child to mind . Tkae it easy and hopefully another week and you will feel much better.
Talk later

Thanks for that, I keep thinking I am being a total wuss..

And my sister, who is not diabetic, had to have a tooth out a couple of weeks ago, and she keeps saying: "Ooo, we are obviously just different, I felt fine the next day... "

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Id kill her actually my sister was only 18 and didnt have any other problems with the diabetes. Any doctor will tell you the diabetes slows down your defences and recovery. I wouldnt take any heed of her. Comments like that really dont help do they.

Hi girls hope your all well,
E hope your feeling better now and the pain has gone from mouth.
Dutchie hope your still relaxed after your holiday.
Well girls I think the tablets are beginning to work. I feel a little better even though dreams are still waking me at night. Went back to GP and he said to continue anti d tabs for another fortnight and he will probanly wean them then. He said he doesnt see me needing them long term. Got some beautiful bird garden onamentds for my friends grave the last day and put them down. I think he would love them.
talk later

hey dm, so glad you are feeling better. I've been thinking about you and wondering how you are.. the bird ornaments sound lovely, did your friend like birds particularly?
I hope your dreams are not to scary, did you try writing them down? If they are anxiety based, this can sometimes help to break the pattern.

I am fine, tooth is alot better (thank god!!!) but it took until wed/thur this week, so nearly 2 weeks and I am still taking pain-killers (just normal ones now though) so not the one/two days I was expecting then

How are you Dutchie? Did you find out anything more about the pump?

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Hi girls
Took me awhile to find this post it was buried deep!!

DM hope you are feeling better - Hope those horrid dreams are gone now.

E - how's your tooth?

Not much to report. Did'nt find out too much about the pump, too lazy to surf the net

Ladies - meant to ask ye, do you take anything when you have an upset tummy? Reason I ask is that I threw up - just the once - on Sat evening after DH served up a gorgeous meal, and thought that I was going to be up for the night throwing up, and would end up in A&E. This really mae me panic as this has happened a few times in the past where I've picked up either a tummy bug, or gotten food poisining, the constant puking landed me in A&E due to hypos etc ... horrible experiences altogether - so I was wondering if there anything that I can take to settle the tummy if I ever get the vomiting bug?????

Sorry about the topic

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Hi Dutchie hope your feeling better now. Im afraid Ive no cure to settle stomach. Maybe try one of the travel bands? When I was pregnant with my youngest was the only time had morning sickness and nothing worked I felt sick most of pregnancy and was hospitalised once early in the pregnancy cos I was keeping nothing down and so getting loads of hypos. . The only thing that helped me was taking really dry food and sometimes the travel bands worked.

Hi girls hope your all well, took me ages to find thread. Im feeling a lot better and wanted to thank ye for your support when I was feeling really low in August. Ive started going swimming with ds2 a few days a week and its great. He loves it , its good for me and we get to meet people as well.
Did any of ye see article in todays irish daily mail. About islet cell transplantation. Sorry girls feel low blood sugar will continue topic tomorrow.

Hey DM, nice to hear from you.. ..was only thinking about this thread

I didn't see the Irish Daily Mail, but I think islet transplantation is the best hope for folks like us iykwim. I remember seeing a study done about 2 years ago now, where out of 12 diabetic people, 10 came off insulin entirely, and the other 2 were greatly reduced after islet cell transplants

So glad you're feeling brighter DM, and I'm so glad that you felt able to reach out because it seems to have turned things around for you, which is excellent.
.. so hopefully talk soon

E

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OOOH news !!!!!!! my lips are sealed E!!!!

DM - glad your feeling much better

I had to go to the Dr yesterday to get my bloods done (Hab1c) and the stupid Dr rang me back a couple of hours later to tell me that the blood test was inconclusive (wtf!!!???)so I had to go back again this morning. both my arms have massive bruises from that dr
I've an appt later in the month with my con I know that I'm giong to get eaten alive as I've not been a good girl - I find it terribley hard to stick to a rigid diet, test my blood etc with minding two babies etc etc etc. My morning bloods have been crap - and all my own fault, as its usually 8.30pm by the time I get to eat my tea, and then I fall into bed at 10pm.

sorry girls, I'm such a moan,
On a lighter note, its nearly time to finish up at work here, so I'll pop back later

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E Im guessing what your good news is and am delighted for you.
Dutchie, isnt it funny how we all worry about getting ate going to diabetic check ups. Ive been pretty good for last few years and last 2 hba1c have been 5.8 and 6.5 . Its very hard to stick to the straight and narrow though. I also know I need to lose about 3 stone and thats what Ill be lectured about. It must be very hard working and not getting home to eat til that time.
Dont get me started on the butchers that take blood. I ve had diabetes since I was 3 and they have always found it difficult to get my veins. When I was younger my dad who is a painter in the hospital where I have check ups used to have to come and help mum to hold me so that they could get blood. As you can imagine that still gives me nightmares. My veins never got any better but I learned to offer the better arm and at 33 I still close my eyes and bite my other finger when I get blood taken. Have to say the nurses seem to be improving at taking the blood TG.
Dutchie , I just wondered what insulin your using. I started Lantus last August and i find it brilliant . Its an insulin that works over 24 hours and you use a fast acting one before meals . Before i started on it I was getting high bsugars tests in the mornings but now their around 5or 6 most mornings.
gOING TO HEAD FOR NOW TALK LATER

Dm I can't believe how good your HbA1c is , I would be delighted if mine was under 7!! The only thing is, running so low, it would be difficult to loose weight, so you might have to run abit higher for a while - just do it after you meet your consultant next

Dutchie, I think it sounds to me as if you have your hands full at the moment, so hopefully your consultant will understand, and give you some encouragement rather then a big slap on the wrist.

...have to run, very tired at the moment, and my BS are awful

E

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E I might sound awful stupid cos really I dont do a lot of reading about diabetes but why is it hard to lose weight with lower blood sugars. Is it because you could have hypos after exercise? actually yeah Im finding that this last couple of weeks. Have lowered my lantus and waiting to see if that stops them or I will have to lower the fast acting one as well.
What do ye do if ye exercise. I went to aqua aerobics tonight but drank half bottle of lucozade so i wouldnt get hypo. Is there anything better I could take. Would I be better eating bread or something. I used to eat fruit afterwards but I found I was still neediong something else as well.

Hope your feeling better soon after a good rest E.
Dutchie I used to find it very difficult to be checking blood sugars with two young children in the house and its really only now that kids are older that Im more consciencious about checking bloods. Actually I used to thimk going to diabetic clinics was such a waste of time because I was listening to them and they werent really interested in how I was doing . I was just someone else that had to be seen that morning. Now that Ive more time (all kids in school except ds2 whos 3) I find the clinics more beneficial and theres a brilliant diabetic specialist nurse who will explain things in plain english not like your a dimwit. You must be really busy with two babs and working, I wouldnt worry about it too much.

Just after reading that back and realised I seem to have a few issues with some things in the clinic. Actually at this stage I ve had diabetes as long as a lot of the doctors have been alive
Hope your all well and talk later
Sorry for waffling

My consultant says that we are what's called "expert patients" in that we know more about our condition then most of the people treating us, and as you say, we've had it for longer then they've been practicing. I know my own body anyway, and I resent anyone telling me that I don't .
Having said that, there are good people out there who want to support one with living with this illness, rather then just prescribing a formula. In your case Dutchie, they should take into account the fact that you have 2 young kids to parent, and your diabetes will come back around once they get a little older IMO.

In regards to weight loss, if you run lower your body does not have to work to process your food because the insulin is just there. So if you run slightly higher, then it means your body is metabolizing more efficiently. My con says that it is impossible to loose weight when you are having hypos because your body will be laying down fat in reserve instead of burning it. I know this is true for me anyway..
If you are finding that you are reducing your Lantus (and you should give it 3 days to change) then you are going in the right direction And I think ideally you should take less insulin before you eat, before you are going to exercise rather then having to compensate afterwards to bring your BS back up. Does that make sense??

Anyway, hope its nicer weather where you are this morning

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Hi everyone,
I only just found this site, though I've been posting on MM for months!!
I'm 30 and have IDDM since I was 11, so that's nearly 20 years now. I have a 20 month old son and am currrntly ttc no.2. Have been trying for 4 months now.
It's great to find this site as reading over your posts your experiences sound v similar to mine- namely becoming "expert patients"- it really annoys me when inexperiences docs try to tell you what to do. The worst I have to say was when I was pg- someone else mentioned DR Firth in Holles st- they were terrible. I used to go in and have a row with them everytime and some of the dose changes they gave me didn't make sense. When I questioned it with the Nurse (who was great by the way) she agreed with me and I'd sometimes set a dose change of my own. It was only when I started doing this that I got my sugars under control. The doc just didn't understand my body/routine and/or spend enough time reviewing my results!!
Sorry, didn't mean to rant on my first post, but it's something that I found v upsetting and stressful during pg and I'll probably have to go through it all again.
DS is perfectly healthy- 9lb 1oz (don't know why he put on lots in the last few weeks when my sugars were perfect) but he did get admitted to NIC

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(contd) ...with low bs.
DM- I'm impressed at your HBA1c results- how did you get a 5.8??? My last was 6.5 but that's after trying really hard (since I'm ttc) and that's pretty much my record. I actually didn't think it was possible when you're on insulin! Normally mine are around 7. I've no complications TG. anyway, I'm hoping it will be good to talk to you all while ttc and during pg (fingers crossed) and on.........

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Hi LMum and welcome, good luck with ttc. At least your trying to get blood sugars under control before conceiving. I had 4 surprise pregnancies so My bs were not so good at begining of each pregnancy but thank god my 4 babies were all perfect when they were born. They weighed 6lb2, 9lb12, 7lb 4 and 7lb 8. I had an obnoxious dr on first pregnancy who had frightened the life out of me about all complications I might have and baby may have. On second and following pregnancy I refused to have him. He still stood at the end of my bed on second pregnancy ,looked at my chart and said ' THERES NO WAY THIS WOMANS BS ARE THIS GOOD, OR SHE WOULDNT BE HAVING BIG BABY. sHES GOING TO HAVE AT LEAST A 10 POUNDER' He spoke as if I wasnt there to his junior drs. Sorry for rant but it still annoys me 12 years later.
On the blood sugars its really only since i had my youngest Ive started watching my bs better. I was bad diabetic between pregnancies and really didnt check my blood sugars enough. I have diabetes 30 years this year so Im getting a lot more careful about watching it.
Hope to talk again soon

Hi Lmum,
sounds like you have things under control (a little diabetic joke ) and hopefully your TTC will shortly be conceived
I have a feeling that Dutchie attends Dr Firth in the Mater (that wasn't the name I would call him ...) but I could be wrong?? I have a diabetic friend who attends him privately, and they get on well, so I think we just have a personality clash...
I have one dd (2.5) who is absolutely hilarious at the moment, so keeping me entertained alongside a run of things that she picked up at play-school (don't get me started about people sending their kids in sick )

Anyway, hope things are well with you DM, and to Dutchie too

E

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