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 Post subject: 21st Century child.
PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 9:56 pm 
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This is on again on Tuesday at 10.15pm on rte, the children are now 4 and this week it's about the mothers. I have been following this over the last few years and think its very good.


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 Post subject: Re: 21st Century child.
PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 10:30 am 
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I watched this only last night (had to record it). I thought it was very good - actually quite surprised that there isn't more chat about it.

I thought the woman who now has 2 kids living in Clontarf had little to be worrying about - she kept harping on about the fact that they had no money (rows about beans etc) but they haven't been effected by the recession at all! They are both working in their original jobs and if they have less money than beforehand ...well, they do have 2 kids now, don't they!? Actually come to think of it, her husband is an investment banker - he's probably not getting those dirty big bonuses he was gettinga few years ago!

Feel very sorry for Aisling who lives in Portlaoise with her mother - she seems to have a right battle on her hands, and feel extreeeemly sorry for little Caoimhe - wonder how all this will effect her?

Overall- definitely worth watching but am wondering why it takes them a year to bring it to our screens....all the "updates" were filmed in May 2010!!

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 Post subject: Re: 21st Century child.
PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 11:09 pm 
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Totally agree with you, all the moms are very likeable but my heart went out to Aisling, her life is very tough a constant battle. The mom from Clontarf was funny I thought, all her moaning about no money and having to shop in penneys.
The mom with the visual impairment was great I thought, very honest and level headed.
Chickenlicken wrote:

Overall- definitely worth watching but am wondering why it takes them a year to bring it to our screens....all the "updates" were filmed in May 2010!!

Chickenlicken x


Said the same to dh when I watched it, looking forward to next week.


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 Post subject: Re: 21st Century child.
PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 11:19 pm 
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I thought the same about the mam from clontarf . I thought her comment about penneys , was a bit snobby . Felt really sorry for ashling, she's very lucky to have her mam helping her . Hope things in the series improve for her. Love the attachment parents .They are so down to earth .


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 Post subject: Re: 21st Century child.
PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 11:26 pm 
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You are right Mistie, the attachment parents were great very down to earth, I thought her mam was very funny, I remember the first series they got on my nerves but they were very likeable the other night.


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 Post subject: Re: 21st Century child.
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OliverT wrote:
You are right Mistie, the attachment parents were great very down to earth, I thought her mam was very funny, I remember the first series they got on my nerves but they were very likeable the other night.



I wasnt mad about them either first series . But really like them now . Yeah loved dee's mam she reminds me of my own mother a lot .


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 Post subject: Re: 21st Century child.
PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 11:31 pm 
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I wonder what happened the rest of the families? I remember in the second series, one girl had dropped out. Have the others dropped out too?

I really felt for Ashling, was a single mum on dd1 so I could relate to the unplanned pregnancy in series one, really felt for her as life seems to be a constant struggle. Hope the new meds along with the workshop she was talking about works for her. Her mum is great.


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 Post subject: Re: 21st Century child.
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Chickenlicken wrote:


I thought the woman who now has 2 kids living in Clontarf had little to be worrying about - she kept harping on about the fact that they had no money (rows about beans etc) but they haven't been effected by the recession at all! They are both working in their original jobs and if they have less money than beforehand ...well, they do have 2 kids now, don't they!? Actually come to think of it, her husband is an investment banker - he's probably not getting those dirty big bonuses he was gettinga few years ago!



I think thats a little harsh, shes an architect and that profession has been badly hit, most of the profession are unemployed and those that are still hanging in there have taken a 40% pay cut, and your right he probably isn't getting mad bonus anymore, so therefor they have been hit by recession. Just because you are in your original job does not mean you are "not hit"


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 Post subject: Re: 21st Century child.
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Sully I think the rest of the families will be shown in the coming weeks .


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 Post subject: Re: 21st Century child.
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Thanks for that. Wasn't sure and just being nosey!

I think the woman from Clontarf did come across badly but I did feel a tad sorry for her as life as she knew it both financially and her relationship have changed and she wasn't ready for either. I kindof (rightly or wrongly) think that she thought that she'd have kids and that she could still have the same lifestyle, social life dates with DH etc and esp with 2 young kids it just doesn't work like that! I'd say that they must have a huge mortgage too and that in itself is a huge pressure and he seems to work very long hours and I think she was expecting more 'her' or 'them' time IYKWIM.

I'd say she watched it cringing esp when she was being shown next to Ashling who was struggling on social welfare and has horrid health compliants to deal with. She might realise that if shopping in Pennys is the extent of her worries then she doesn't have too many of them.


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 Post subject: Re: 21st Century child.
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The woman from Clontarf isn't an architect - she works in an architects office.
I think she is incredibly honest.
I took from her 'Penneys' comment simply that before she wouldn't have bought clothes there, but due to financial restraints now, she is shopping there a lot.
Re. her comment about a relationship changing so much after having children, I think everyone believes that they are so together,a baby is not going to change that - and maybe the reality is somewhat different.


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 Post subject: Re: 21st Century child.
PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 1:42 pm 
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I felt very sorry for the woman in Clontarf actually. I think that family represent a huge number of Irish families who on the surface appear to be doing fine because they live in a nice house but are obviously under massive financial pressure. She did say at one stage that they had absolutely nothing to eat in the house and she had to go out and get a tin of beans and her husband ate her.

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 Post subject: Re: 21st Century child.
PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 2:36 pm 
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I feel really sorry for Aisling and Caoimhe. You can see the strain in Aisling's face. I just wonder how things are going to get better for her. She is crippled with depression and a bad back. She seems to be really stuck in a rut and very dependent on her mother. It looks like life has been very hard on her. Her little Caoimhe must suffer as a result of the depression especially. It's awful.


What is the name of the lady from Clontarf? I can't imagine it is easy for her working full-time and two kids in creche - little does she know it gets harder when they start school because kids have so many holidays! I worked full-time with my first but after that I just couldn't do it. I really felt the kids and I were missing out on each other. At least I had a choice though. This couple don't seem to.

I felt the lady from the Czech republic didn't really give much away. The happiest couple seemed to be the attachment parenting couple. They seem to have a good sense of humour with each other and the kids and are true to their own principles and priorities for happiness.

Fair play to all of them for being so honest. :thumbsup:

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 Post subject: Re: 21st Century child.
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SA2008 wrote:
Chickenlicken wrote:


I thought the woman who now has 2 kids living in Clontarf had little to be worrying about - she kept harping on about the fact that they had no money (rows about beans etc) but they haven't been effected by the recession at all! They are both working in their original jobs and if they have less money than beforehand ...well, they do have 2 kids now, don't they!? Actually come to think of it, her husband is an investment banker - he's probably not getting those dirty big bonuses he was gettinga few years ago!



I think thats a little harsh, shes an architect and that profession has been badly hit, most of the profession are unemployed and those that are still hanging in there have taken a 40% pay cut, and your right he probably isn't getting mad bonus anymore, so therefor they have been hit by recession. Just because you are in your original job does not mean you are "not hit"


Actually, on second thought you're probably right, I was a little harsh in that comment of mine. I realise that she works in an architects office which is an industry thats been badly effected by the recession. And probably a lot of her income is paid out again in childcare. They are symtomatic of a huge amount of couples in the country - dissillusioned and broke and still working every hour in "good" jobs.

Also love the attachment parents - she was dead right in a lot of what she said and I really identified with her...esp the bedsheets not being changed and the toilet only being cleaned when visitors were coming - I laughted out loud!!

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 Post subject: Re: 21st Century child.
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OliverT wrote:
You are right Mistie, the attachment parents were great very down to earth, I thought her mam was very funny, I remember the first series they got on my nerves but they were very likeable the other night.


I remember frequently rolling my eyes at them during the first series but I think they've really chilled out. I absolutely LOVE her Mam. She reminds me so much of what I think my own Mam would be like if she'd lived to see my children. I liked the couple from clontarf too, I think they represent a lot of people in this country today. My heart went out to the girl with depression, she has it so tough. Her mam was a great help to her but I felt in the last series as well that she resents having to help so much (I could be completely wrong of course, just the impression I got)
I absolutely love the couple with the large family - they weren't featured on last weeks episode so I'm hoping they'll be on this week. I remember a scene last year where she is busy cooking and the kids are racing through the house, the older ones lifting the toddler rather awkwardly (but him loving it!) around with them. They were a walking advertisement for a big family I thought (although 3 is plenty for me!!!!)


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 Post subject: Re: 21st Century child.
PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 10:40 pm 
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Another who rolled her eyes at the attachment parenting parents before the baby was born but I've really liked them since the baby was born (ds was in a sling a lot and we wound up co-sleeping most nights by accident!) and I really liked them in this one.

I felt sorry for the girl in Clontarf, when she said about needing to buy beans and her husband ate her, but more so when she said she just missed them having fun together.

My heart went out totally to Aisling, her Mum and Caoimhe. The depression has such a strong hold, the poor thing.

Can't wait to see the rest!

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 Post subject: Re: 21st Century child.
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I love this show.

Tbh I always liked the attachment parenting couple. I always thought they seemed to have a really good relationship with each other and I like that whole breastfeeding, co-sleeping, attachment parenting philosophy. I love the way they are so honest as well and laughed as well at the whole toilet cleaning thing!

My heart goes out to Aisling, her mam, and Caoimhe. Really tough situation for them all and I really hope that life gets better for them from here on.


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